Wednesday, September 14, 2011

Wolf Blitzer vs. Ron Paul with a little assist from me.

The other night there was a Republican Presidential Debate. I didn’t watch it. But a bit of an uproar was caused by a hypothetical question posed to Ron Paul by debate moderator Wolf Blitzer. It went something like this:

“Suppose there is a healthy, prosperous, 30 year old man who decides that since he is young and healthy he doesn’t need to spend 200-300 dollars a month for health insurance. But suddenly he becomes extremely ill and needs 6 months of intensive care in a hospital. What is the responsibility of society to this man. Since he has no insurance, should society just let him die?”

The first uproar was caused by several members of the audience who shouted, “Yeah!!” and applauded heartily, leaving no doubt that this man should in fact be left to die. Set aside , for the moment, the wisdom of hypothetical questions, and set aside further what your position may be on the essence of the question. What kind of person could respond with such glee to the prospect of a 30 year old man struck down in the prime of life, being allowed to die?? Watching the clip chilled me to the bone. Really? That prospect was worthy of an enthusiastic roar of approval? However, the second uproar was caused by Ron Paul’s classically Libertarian answer which , boiled down to its essence, was … in a free society, you are free to make bad decisions, but society is under no obligation to shield you from the consequences of such decisions.

So, on the left, the outrage was over the mean-spirited lack of compassion. On the right, the complaint was that this was another in a long line of loaded, hypotheticals designed to make them look bad. For me, given 24 hours to think out my answer in the comfort of my office and safely away from the glare of cameras, I would have answered the question as follows:

Me: Wolf, First of all, I would like to thank you for throwing me such a perfect softball question!! This is sooo easy! OK, here’s the thing. Your hypothetical 30 year old is both healthy and prosperous, which means he has chosen not to have health insurance. He wasn’t denied coverage because of some pre-existing condition, or prohibited from obtaining coverage because of its’ outrageous cost. In fact, I happen to know that the monthly premium for a catastrophic major medical policy for a healthy 30 year old man runs from between $85 and $150 bucks a month, not the $200-$300 in your example. This sort of coverage would have covered 95% of his entire bill, even for a 6 month hospital visit. No, this 30 year old man decided as a free citizen to take a chance that since he was perfectly healthy, he would always be so. By foregoing insurance, he could spend that money on fun stuff, like a flat screen TV, a new I-Pad, or an awesome week in Cancun. Now, if your hypothetical 30 year old was sick and broke, then “society” has already made the determination that he should in fact be shielded from this type of fate. It’s called Medicaid. All of us pay taxes to provide funds for people who are needy and have health problems. Although Medicaid has serious financial and demographic problems , we as a society have already made the decision that the poor and sick need this part of the safety net. But instead, you are asking whether “society” should be obligated to take care of 30 year old prosperous men who make dumb life decisions. The answer is unequivocally “NO”. See, Wolf, here’s the thing. By using the word “society” you throw people off the trail. Society is a very nebulous and tenuous concept with no check-writing privileges. The correct word in your question should have been…tax-payers, as in , Should the “tax-payers” just let him die? Why should all of the responsible, not so prosperous 30 year old men be obligated to bail out their less responsible peers? I mean, are we free men or not, and do we live in a free society or not? If we are free men, then we must be free to fail. Otherwise, why should anyone do the right thing and provide for themselves if “society” will always be there to clean up after our stupidity?”

Wolf: But, Congressman Dunnevant, what if it were YOUR son? Where’s your compassion sir?”

Me: My son wouldn’t be foolish or immature enough to walk around with no health insurance. And I have plenty of compassion, especially for those struggling, hard working, tax-paying men and women out there who, after paying their health insurance premiums, don’t quite have enough money for an I-Pad or a vacation in Cancun”

7 comments:

  1. I find it hard to believe that a Christian man like yourself would think such a thing. Think if Christ had the same thought process as you do when he was faced with the decision of whether or not to bear the cross for mankind?
    Christ - "to die for everyone elses sins or not to die that is the question! Seeing as I have given these pompas humans every opportunity to see that I am God, I think I will let them rot in hell so I don't have to die... Kinda sounds rediculous doesn't it?

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  2. Anonymous...What my responsibilities are as a Christian in light of the teachings of Jesus are quite another thing than what is being discussed here. As a Christian I would indeed be responsible to do whatever I could personally for anyone in such a position. But why should the government COMPEL compassion from Christians and non-Christians alike. Do you think that this 30 year old bears none of the fault for his condition? Did Christ teach us to rely on the coerced generosity of others? Besides, there once was a time when the "Church" did step up and provide for people in this man's position but we no longer do, primarily because "society"has convinced us that taking care of indigent people is best handled by government.To compare my helplessness in bringing about my own salvation with whether its "Christian" to bail out a perfectly capable yet careless 30 year old Man is a bit of a stretch. But, thanks for your comment!

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  3. This hypothetical conundrum does not adress who bears fault for this mans condition, but rather if any action should be taken to correct his situation. I think you may be a bit naive to think that every person in this situation would be compelled to rely on the "church" for help. Convientional wisdom holds thst not everyone in America is a Christian, but I believe we can "assume" that they are citizens. Therefore, who else does this man have to turn to other than the government?

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  4. Every society has to make choices in how it allocates capital. Since the GDP of any nation isn't limitless, care must be taken in making such decisions. What you would have us do is spend $600000 to cover the 6 month hospital bill of a prosperous, insurable 30 year old man. Has it occurred to you that by doing so, you have made it more difficult to cover similar bills for other, less prosperous, uninsurable 30 year olds? Is it not at all possible that by subsidizing irresponsibility, you will get more of it? If you think not, then THAT is the pure definition of naivete. There exists nowhere on this planet a perfect civil government that can mitigate all human suffering and pain. I readily admit that this hypothetical case is full of both. However, its not enough to offer cheap compassion with no consideration of its sustainability and with no accountability on the part of the citizen.

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  5. I would rather offer what you call "cheap compassion" than no compassion at all! Universal health care aims to extend health care as wide as possible through setting minimum standards. Most universal health care systems require participation from all citizens so that this exact circumstance does not occur. Therefore you are not subsidizing irresponsibility, but rather requiring proper health care for the masses so that everyone, regardless of financial status can receive care. As a general rule universal health care still issues costs to the patient at the time of consumption, while also paying the bill with a mix of compulsory insurance and tax revenues. This system IS sustainable and IS currently working in numerous countries across the globe.

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  6. Fair enough. Although reasonable people can disagree, I suppose about just how sustainable universal coverage is and how close it comes in practice to hitting the goals it "aims" to achieve. I can only hope in light of the opening line of your first post that you will not question the genuineness of my Christianity if we disagree on universal health insurance.

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  7. Where is this currently "working" in "numerous countries across the globe?" Canada? The UK? That's not what my reading leads me to conclude. Ask nurses and doctors who practice medicine in these countries. Go online and read blogs of patients waiting for surgeries deemed "elective" in these "working" UHC systems you claim exist. Like a woman in the UK who fell and broke her ankle (as I did in December) and waited 3 months for surgery to set her fracture. My operation happened the day of my injury. I can't imagine the pain that poor woman endured while waiting for surgery.

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